Sadly, pvm players don't understand how much effort "veterans" put in pvp. How long they was studying stuff and how many hours they spend developing builds and strategy's. You can't jump right from Gramps to Woe and have a fair fight even with all MVP cards on a newbie side. That's why "veterans" always gonna be better.
I think there is no point in trying to force pvm players into woe. They never gonna spend their time on pvp if they are not interested in it. In other side, people who like pvp - they gonna do pvp anyway, and it's doesn't matter if they have gears or not, they gonna